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Analysts list 2 major issues Tesla must address before bringing FSD to China

While the overall trend is for FSD to enter China, there are still two major issues before it becomes a reality -- data collection eligibility and supercomputing centers, according to CITIC Securities.

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A Chinese official's remarks a month ago sparked much anticipation for to bring FSD (Full Self-Driving) to China.

However, Tesla still has a lot of work to do if it makes this a reality. A team of local analysts shared their views in a new research note.

The trend of Tesla FSD entering China is becoming clearer, which is expected to accelerate the progress of intelligence in local electric vehicles (EVs), said a team of CITIC Securities analyst Lian Yixi in a research note today.

While the overall trend is for FSD to enter China, it is still two major issues away from becoming a reality -- data collection eligibility and supercomputing centers, according to the team.

Under China's current regulations, high-precision map mapping can only be conducted by qualified entities, and only 19 currently hold the qualification, the team noted.

Moreover, the compilation of electronic maps for navigation is currently open only to local companies, and the transmission of mapping data outside of China must also be approved in advance, the team said.

Map data is highly sensitive and related to national security, and exactly how Tesla should obtain the qualification is still unknown, the team said.

Viable options for Tesla include forming a joint venture with a Chinese company or moving the process forward in Shanghai on a pilot basis, but it would be difficult for it to roll out the effort on a large scale any time soon, according to the team.

In addition to map-related qualifications, Tesla would need to build a supercomputing center in China.

The pure vision route for autonomous driving relies more on massive data collection and model training for image processing, so Tesla built Dojo, a supercomputing center in the US, and developed its own D1 chip to improve the training efficiency of FSD, CITIC Securities noted.

And in China, even if Tesla obtains the data acquisition qualification, the probability is that it can only train the model locally in China and the data may not be allowed to be transmitted back to the US, the team said.

This means that to achieve the same training efficiency as in the US, Tesla would need to establish a supercomputing center in China similar to Dojo, which would require a certain development cycle and cost, according to the team.

Despite these two major issues, CITIC Securities believes that if Tesla succeeds in bringing FSD to China, it will benefit the overall intelligence of China's EVs, helping to strengthen consumer education, expand the market, and accelerate the process of letting the best win out.

The entry of FSD into China is likely to significantly strengthen consumers' awareness of the intelligence of cars and develop their daily needs and habits for smart driving, which is expected to allow the market to expand significantly in China, the team said.

It is also important to note that if Tesla introduces the highly profitable FSD to China, it has the potential to further reduce the prices of its vehicles and could launch a lower-priced Model 2/Q, with pricing likely in the RMB 150,000 ($21,070) to RMB 200,000 range, according to the team.

If such a scenario emerges, cost pressures on local low- and mid-range models would be further exacerbated, when obtaining a low-priced but qualified smart driving software from a third-party supplier could become a mainstream option for car companies with weaker R&D capabilities, the team said.

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Shanghai official hints at support for Tesla's FSD rollout in China

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Shanghai official hints at support for Tesla’s FSD rollout in China

Shanghai will further deepen its cooperation with Tesla to promote the EV maker's businesses including self-driving and robotics in the city, a local official said.

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Tesla's FSD (Full Self-Driving) may be getting closer to being available in China.

Shanghai will further deepen its cooperation with Tesla to promote the electric vehicle (EV) maker's businesses including self-driving and robotics in the city, a local official said.

The city will work with Tesla to build a technology industry cluster with core technology advantages for the global market, Chen Kele, deputy director of intelligent manufacturing promotion division at Shanghai Municipal Commission of Economy and Informatization, said today.

Tesla's factory in Shanghai received a tour by local media today, and Chen mentioned this during a media briefing, according to The Paper.

Chen did not directly mention Tesla's FSD, but it was the first hint of support from a Chinese official for Tesla's FSD software.

Tesla, despite being a pioneer among EV companies in exploring autonomous driving, has been seen as slow to move in the area in China.

The EV maker is about to begin wide-scale testing of FSD in China, local media outlet Caixin said in an April 3 report.

All Tesla vehicles currently come with the free Basic Autopilot (BAP) software. In addition, Tesla also offers Enhanced Autopilot (EAP), FSD software as options.

EAP and FSD cost $6,000 and $15,000 respectively in the US and RMB 32,000 ($4,600) and RMB 64,000 respectively in China.

Tesla has made a positive contribution to the construction of a world-class automotive industry center in Shanghai, supporting the city's steady industrial economic growth, Chen said at today's event.

Tesla produced 727,000 vehicles in 2022, up 49.7 percent year-on-year, with an industrial output value of RMB 183.9 billion, Chen said, adding that this represents 23 percent of Shanghai's auto manufacturing output, driving industrial output growth by 1.3 percentage points.

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Tesla reportedly to begin large-scale testing of FSD in China

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Tesla reportedly to begin large-scale testing of FSD in China

will soon begin large-scale testing of FSD (Full ) in China, according to a report by Caixin on April 3.  TSLA.US

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Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA), despite being a pioneer among electric vehicle (EV) makers in exploring autonomous driving, has been seen as slow to move in the space in China. Now, it looks like things are about to change.

Tesla is about to begin large-scale testing of FSD (Full Self-Driving) in China, local media outlet Caixin said in an April 3 report.

The story was a feature on and did not mention anything more about Tesla's FSD localization efforts in China.

Notably, this is the second time in a week that similar rumors have surfaced.

Tesla China will soon push out a major update to Autopilot, auto blogger Zheng Xiaokang, who has 532,000 followers on Weibo, said on March 27.

The blogger did not mention any more information, and in the comments section of his Weibo post, there was speculation that the update might be Tesla's vision-only V11 software.

All Tesla vehicles currently come with the free Basic Autopilot (BAP) software. In addition, Tesla offers Enhanced Autopilot (EAP), FSD software as an option.

EAP and FSD cost $6,000 and $15,000 in the US and RMB 32,000 ($4,650) and RMB 64,000 in China, respectively.

Tesla opened the EAP feature option in China on February 5, 2021, adding several features compared to BAP, including automatic assisted lane change, automatic parking, and smart summoning.

Tesla has made the EAP feature available free of charge to Chinese owners on holidays several times over the past two years, although the software has not won much praise.

The optional Tesla FSD capability has always been available, but Chinese consumers who have purchased the package have so far failed to get a significantly better experience than BAP.

In contrast, Tesla's Chinese counterparts are seeing tremendous progress with the assisted driving feature.

On March 31, (NYSE: XPEV) made its Tesla FSD-like advanced driver assistance aystem (ADAS) available for its flagship G9 and P7i models, though the capability still relies on high-precision maps for now. The feature was previously available on the P5 sedan.

XPeng plans to expand full lane-changing, overtaking and left/right turn functionality to major Chinese cities without high-precision maps in the second half of 2023, while full-scene ADAS is planned for 2024.

On February 20, (NYSE: NIO) began allowing all NT 2.0 platform models to trial NOP+ assisted driving software, which enables a point-to-point assisted driving experience on highways as well as urban expressway scenarios.

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Tesla rumored to push major Autopilot update in China soon

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